Brushpiling

[lvdw]

Howzit Guys... :blue-biggrin:

I know that there are a few guys that make and place their own Brushpiles in different dams. My qustion are to the guys in the know....Why, How & Where? :blue-doubt:

I've heard that it needs to be strategically place on the migration routes of Bass as well as have some "appealing" features that make it better than existing natural cover/structure. How do you know what makes a certain piece of structure "appealing" and the other not so much, how do you determine the exact routes that bass use for migration and what depths are ideal? What are the pro's in doing it? Surely you can't move a large piece of structure on your boat too place at your "spot", so if it isn't big, what amount of fish will it actually hold? Isn't it true that the larger dominant bass keeps a piece of structure too itself? So what's the use for just 1 fish? :blue-doubt:

I don't know a whole lot about this subject, so I hope that the guys in the know will help us out on this subject and share!! :blue-biggrin:

[Smeegle]

Surely you can't move a large piece of structure on your boat too place at your "spot

I happened to sit next to a "pro" at the Rugby just after last years Inanda Classic who was pretty drunk, and he let out that he and some mates took six boats during the week and dumped 100 tyres off the main channel opposite cabbage patch.

As they say, a drunk man tells no lies.... I wonder exactly how much crap has been dumped in our dams over the years. :blue-question:

[Hawkeye]

HAH ! :blue-badgrin: so those are the nesting sites pomerob saw on his Side Imager, hee hee heee :blue-lol: Sorry pomerob I just couldnt resist the temptation.Now I will just have to try Cabbage Patch next time I fish the Inanda bass Classic. oh Anyone for a beer ??? :blue-smile: Im buying this round

[Ninja]

I'm convinced there are tyres in the quarry at Inanda, I have hooked into something a couple of times and it moved after some hard pulling, eventualy the line will snap off.

[lvdw]

I'm convinced there are tyres in the quarry at Inanda, I have hooked into something a couple of times and it moved after some hard pulling, eventualy the line will snap off.

Howzit Neels,

Is it not perhaps your "lost" trolling motor, rod and reels, tackle or maybe 1 of Rob's camping chars?? Sorry man ek konnie myself inhou!! :blue-lol:

[Shannon]

Personally I find nothing wrong with brushpiling, infact it can actually enhance the dams we fish if done properly.
One of the biggest misconceptions is that Brushpiles are put down to hold Bass, this is not entirely true. Brushpiles give baitfish a place to hide away from Bass, a baitfish in open water doesn't have a chance against a bass, but if he can duck and dive behind something he has a better chance. Baitfish therefore congregate on brushpiles and if there are baitfish there will be bass.
LVDW you are correct that sometimes one big bass will dominate a brushpile all for himself or should I say herself, but 1 x 4kg fish is all that it takes to finish in the money as opposed to finishing down the list somewhere.

In the US the Fish and Wildlife departments actually encourage dropping structure to enhance their lakes, Berkley has even gone as far as creating the Berkley Fish habitat product. One of these habitats was actually given out by BASS to the local federation on Sunday during the Elite series weigh in.

Just be careful what you drop in the water, make sure that you don't use stuff that fish or other animals can become trapped in. And just remember that you must properly weight whatever you are dropping overboard. The last thing any of us want to experience is smacking a floating tyre when you are doing 100km/h.

[Millpond]

I've never done it myself but I don't have an issue with it as long as the brushpile is kept as natural as possible (a tangle of branches, rocks or perhaps a weighted wooden pallet), doesn't pose a navigation hazzard and enhances and otherwise barren area. I do object to treating the dam like a dumpsite and littering it with hundreds of synthetic foreign objects such as tyres!

[Ninja]

Howzit Neels, is it not perhaps your "lost" trolling motor, rod and reels, tackle ....

Nope, those items are not in the quarry. I have plotted all my lost tackle on my GPS and have caught some nice fooshies from my expencive brushpiles, especialy the sneaker motor brushpile! :blue-biggrin: I call them my UTP's (Unintentional Tackle Piles) :blue-lol:

[robfisher]

While it is accepted I think it’s wrong because not only are a lot of foreign objects thrown into the dam once again it is an unfair advantage… but I suppose one could argue that fast boats and fancy fish finders are also unfair as are Bio-Sonic devices (I think they are banned in compos overseas) and underwater video devices. But for my 2c worth I don’t think they should be allowed… the dam should remain natural unless the brush-piling is done by a biologist being paid to look after a dam.

[pomerob]

Brush pilling is an affordable edge that just about anyone can do. Unlike the edge that SI units give and the advantage of a big fast boat that are only available to the wealthy.

Brush piling is available to everyone who so wishes to make the effort I don't see it as unfair advantage because if you want to anyone can go and do it, however there is an art to it and you really have to understand the fish so you can place it in a good area.

If you want to make it a communistic level playground, then everyone must go out on the same type of boat, have the same electronics and use the same lure. Then you can say you are matching the fisherman against each other. I don't know about everyone else but I enjoy this sport because I catch fish (sometimes) if it is not harming anyone, by all means do what you have to do to catch those pigs everyone wants to catch.

Just keep it as natural as possible and keep the hazardous stuff such as tires out the dam.

[Hawkeye]

Just keep it as natural as possible and keep the hazardous stuff such as tires out the dam.

JA! :blue-evil: Remember you guys in DURBS have to Drink that water. BURP FiZZZZzzzz Fart :blue-redface:

[bassmaster]

We could say that if someone creates structure to study the basses behavior according to that specific structure and weather conditions, and the person does not compete in competition, then it's ok. :blue-rolleyes:

I would say if it is 100% natural and they can guarantee that it is not polluting the water in any way, then maybe it would be acceptable. I would like to know however if it is legal? Are you allowed to dump anything in any water source? I don't think so?

It's hard work laying structure properly and a good bass angler with all the toys should be able to find the structure just as easily. It should probably make you a better angler.

I can not say I have not ever wanted to put in some of my own structure, but I normally go places to fish and not work... lol :blue-biggrin:

[crankystanley]

you can make some really good structures with pvc conduit...by drilling out bigger pipes and pushing smaller pipes through...then you pour concrete into the big pipe to weight it down...as mentioned the problem is knowing where to put the structiure the most practical position...i personall have never put any structure in the dams...i have found piles of tyres at alberts and now understand why certain fishermen travel the route they do during comps.

[PDV]

Have a look at the following links which I found on the "Pond Boss" magazine web site.

Some great ideas to enhance a small dam......

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[Shannon]

Have a look at the following links which I found on the "Pond Boss" magazine web site.

Some great ideas to enhance a small dam......

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:blue-rolleyes:

Hey some cool ideas here :blue-biggrin: